Where they reach an understanding on this matter, the full expression of their viewpoint or experience in work, self-discipline or restriction does not blend. [p] In one case, a man and woman from homes 3,000 miles apart met at a convention mid-way between. Most likely, this couple has met before and is here to work out their karma. This can be just as threatening to Saturn, who finds security in that initial bond that felt exclusive and special, whereby Mercury and Saturn came together with a mutual understanding that they turned to each other for advice and inspiring conversations. At the outset, there can be some resistance or reluctance to forming a relationship and/or a commitment with each other on one of the individuals parts, as if he or she senses that committing to the other person will involve something heavy. [p] Mercury did not always choose to take the responsible step. MERCURY CONJUNCT NEPTUNEMercury has a familiarity with the ideals or fantasies of Neptune. She expressed her own imagination in the community little theatre group. Other times it is loyalty, devotion or generosity. In these examples, Mercury feels and responds in feeling to the Moon. She lived for 20 years with her first husband, a cold, reserved older man who gave her financial and social security. She was pursuing her private dream in psychich research. [p] In one example, a man's Mercury was square the Moon of both his sisters. Neptune does rule drugs, and in the examples where drugs are a distinguished part of the exchange between these two people, it will be mentioned. A self-centered Mercury makes an indifferent use of Saturn or takes advantage of him. She broke into giggles at his jokes, and she expressed to him how she never laughed so much with a person in her life. [p] Mercury was a lusty, virile man, who understood well his Scorpio wife's erotic needs. You also learn a lot from each other with this aspect in your synastry chart. [p] A son with Mercury opposition his mother's Saturn cared for her financially from the age of 17 when his father died, to the time of her death 30 years later. Venus conjunct Ketu: Venus is the wife or lover. Let's take an example of Mercury conjunct Saturn in synastry. [p] Their exchange is not always on an equal level. Scorpio Perhaps Mercury discovered on his or her own a new way of thinking that inspired him or her. [p] There are more personal than business relationships in these examples, though the worldly position or business touches upon the contact. [p] In the progressions, Mercury often leaned on Saturn for security, rather than develop an exchange. There were several dynamic attractions, where Mercury began a love affair with Mars that lasted a shroter time than the progression. i have a relationship with someone that could be described very much in that manner. [p] If both persons are able to change their personal situations to build common experience and communication, the exchange is beneficial to both. In a long-term marriage, a man had Mercury conjunct his wife's Neptune. Circumstances and environment are such that Mercury need make little effort to elicit a depth of exchange with Pluto for the common good of both. [p] A five year old boy with Mercury conjunct his mother's Moon expressed this solicitude and understanding when he said, "Mom, you'd better go to bed early tonight so you're not in a bad mood tomorrow." Topic: Saturn conjunct Saturn in synastry: GirlMercury Knowflake . Often their conflicting responsibilities kept them apart. Mercury worked as hard as he was able, but he did not have the system, stability, or maturity to handle the management. There was an example of rape. Together, you tend to solve relationship problems through careful, step-by-step, and logical communication. The Saturn conjunct Neptune in synastry is an aspect that could either indicate a strong spiritual bond between the partners or it could indicate the attempt to merge two completely opposite personalities. [p] Two couples belonged to a communal group that shared sex and dope. Mercury suspected Pluto of infidelity. His social life is too active to not text others. Also, sag_stellium- it seems like there's a ton of negative energy between you two. There was one relationship of this nature between a heterosexual woman and a homosexual man. From his own experience Mercury understands or identifies with Jupiter's faith and hope, religion or philosophy, wealth or prestige. [p] When Mercury develops a contact based on coercion, the subsequent inversion will leave nothing of value. [p] There are other examples of relationships that, fortunately, received no public acclaim. From his own experience Mercury understands or identifies with Jupiter's faith and hope, religion or philosophy, wealth or prestige. Both of these couples have prestigious position and great wealth. In other cases, the understanding and identification is in their passions. They had a communal voluntary cooperation in the construction of their business. There is either a circumstantial obstacle or an incompatibility in their areas of responsibility. Their attraction was so intense, that they had a three day love affair, the impact of which stayed with them both for many years. [p] After his death, the woman remarried. He does what is required and no more. Their production was handicapped by limited funds, inadequate sets and crew. They parted into different group environments, but still cooperated in their business settlement. Synastry:MoonAscendantAspectsBetweenTwoCharts [p] In those cases where there is an ego or integrity clash, or where stress comes from other aspects, they both tend to move apart from each other rather than hold a steady unity. But the truth of the matter is, given the depth of the attachment to each other, there is much to gain from working on the intimacy issues described above. The caution here is to avoid too much censoring to the point that Moon feels emotionally isolated, misunderstood, or blocked. Synastry:SunPlutoAspects The conjunction of Mercury and Saturn between charts can possess shades of both the challenging and flowing aspects mentioned above. He understands or identifies from his own personal experience with Pluto's ethos, his aspirations, or with his insidious dark areas. [p] If there is any hostility or disappointment it is because one or the other cannot supply the demand for depth of passion. This can take the form of criticizing the energies expressed by the personal planet person. A balance is possible, as the personal planet person may benefit from Saturns impositions, at least ones that are not purely based on fear. Mercury had a baby bleed to death at birth, Mars had a baby stillborn. [p] In every case one, or both, have some hidden heights or depths, from each other or form the world. The male-female contacts tend more to a fraternal relationship. As time goes on, inevitably Mercury will excitedly share an experience wherein he or she had an enlightening conversation with a friend outside of their relationship. [p] The sexual contacts here were passionate with little endurance. Mars trine Neptune. Assumptions! In the other a man Mercury seduced Mars on one occasion, and rejected her. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 When they were apart, she felt freer to be herself. He was an ambitious and capable child actor from the age of four. The Mercury person can feel intimidated by the Saturn persons practicality. It was she who fired his full passion of devotion to the general good. They were unable to change their pattern structure, and they separated. This can be just as threatening to Saturn, who finds security in that initial bond that felt exclusive and special, whereby Mercury and Saturn came together with a mutual understanding that they turned to each other for advice and inspiring conversations. An employee accompanied him to work while mother pursued her own enthusiasms. As a result, the progressions in half the cases are as indicative of separation as of blending. As time passed, she felt that whenever she found someone else funny or even something else funny, her partner came down on her in some way. Description of the conjunction aspect between the Sun and Saturn.This is about Synastry, not composite charts [p] Some of the examples are distinctly a threat to the reputation, as in secret love affairs, use of drugs, or business dealings that could not stand too much investigation. [p] As the conjunction is neutral, Mercury can acknowledge Pluto impartially. When Mercury in your chart forms an aspect to your partners Saturn, form, logic, and reality are important elements in your communications. Mercury managed the business, Saturn put up the capital. He isn't with me. Most of the examples are of long term relationships, in family, friends, marriages, and business contacts. In these three cases, Mercury-Mars were companions and not involved in any other Mars pursuit at the time, other rhan their full expenditure of energy or aggression. [p] When Mercury directs his full energy of honest, courageous and direct impetus toward Mars, he derives the full benefit of a constructive relationship. Their initial acknowledgement of each other draws them together. Other things: he judges my language skills harshly, but if someone else picked up 2 words in a another language, applause will be showered on them. Each has importance and significance in their own environment; when together they tend to clash. Mercury in 8th House Synastry. It brings a lot of difficulties into a relationship but also gives immense potential for growth. posted December 18, 2006 06:07 PM. The other man stayed in his peaceful world of marijuana and music. Mercury square Pluto is a heavy connection, as it brings in constant tension, especially on the level of the intellectual. Mercury-Saturn in Synastry. He became an outstanding neurologist. They do have some of the characteristics described above, but generally there is less defensiveness between the two, and criticism is constructive if it exists. The Saturn person in the relationship. In one case Mercury sexually attacked Mars; in one case Mercury shot Mars. Welcome to Lindaland (Linda-Goodman.com) Lindaland Astrology 2.0 Saturn conjunct Sun in Synastry=Glue? MERCURY SEXTILE NEPTUNEMercury has the ability to see the ideal quality of Neptune. Both parties must be more mindful of what exactly they are doing. [p] Many times the aspect is constructive. Yes please, mark everything up. MERCURY SEXTILE SATURNMercury has the ability to develop a secure and responsible contact with Saturn. Synastry:SaturnNorthNodeAspects . [p] Often there is a full Neptunian expression in the contact. For the most part, it is a passive contact, where the efforts of both go into other directions rather than toward each other. But often Mercury is stimulated to ego-competetiveness with the Sun that starts a period of push and pull conflict of domination. Synastry:SunConjunctDescendant [p] In some examples, the two people had no commensurate responsibility on which to base a relationship. [p] If Mercury does not accept this opportunity at the time that it is offered, the chance passes like a dream. They were involved in a mate swapping club that was dramatically exposed to the public. Most Saturn placements in a synastry chart represent past life karma. The man felt threatened by his partner finding humor in anything that did not originate between them. The contact does not seem strong enough to withstand any trauma. The position of the synastric Saturn in your natal chart shows where and how your partner will tend to oppress and restrict you; the evolutionary level of their Saturn will show how precisely they will . [p] A woman had Mercury opposition the Pluto of her husband when he was involved in a gang whose hidden activities never were fully revealed. When he makes no effort to develop a deeper understanding, or when he has an ego or integrity clash with the Sun, the contact dissolves as easily as it formed. [p] In one case a marriage dissolved because Mercury made no effort to sexually or socially reach agreement with his Mars wife. In synastry, this aspect will enhance other positive aspects between people. Mercury might feel childish or not bright enough. Synastry:Venus-NorthSouthNodeAspectsBetweenTwoCharts Thanks. [p] The Mercury N parallel Mercury progressions include several of the closest friendships between people of diverse backgrounds, where the contact was broken by one person moving away. The maturity and significance of the relationship depends for the most part on his attitude. Saturn symbolises the structures in our lives such as career, stability, family and the 'old ways'. A self-centered Mercury loses this opportunity by default, or by taking advantage of Saturn. The marriage endured for their lifetimes. The interpretations are insightful and warmly written. [p] A long-term marriage was established on this basis. This relationship stands much chance of being a long-lasting one. They stayed together but the relationship itself disintegrated. She was the doctor who headed the research lab group. She was able to accept the man imparitally without any urge to personal involvement. in a way that caused a strain to their relationship. [p] The progressions are subtle. There were hidden levels that the two were unable to exchange. The Sun conjunct Saturn synastry aspect is a karmic placement. The Hindu, with Mercury conjunct the woman's Jupiter, understood and identified with her growing needs of philosophical expansion. Moon Conjunct Venus will never stop loving each other. the moon person tends to understand the Saturn persons serious . [p] The progressions have examples of more intimacy. [p] When Mercury takes willful leadership, he either has a power struggle or loss of contact with the Sun. The site is run by astrologer Annie Heese. Never mind that I speak 4 languages fluently and can pick and drop other languages by simply listening. He understands or identifies with the Moon's mental processes. They meet by chance. Cancer This may be talent, intelligence or capability, or it may be in business, profession, prestige or wealth. Saturn conjunct north node in synastry suggests that the relationship between two people is highly karmic. MERCURY TRINE SATURNMercury has a spontaneous and natural contact with Saturn in which he can easily handle any difficulty that arises. [p] Apparently many people need this discipline, for we have, suprisingly, long term contacts in marriage, family and business. And that's just the conjunction. Negativity or criticism may dominate your communications from time to time. He would say things like, I really dont know why you find that so funny. As time passed, a dark cloud formed above the couple. Synastry:MoonVenusAspectsBetweenTwoCharts Mercury conjunct Mercury is a wonderful aspect to have in romantic relationships and friendships. [p] The progressions have one case of an actress with Mercury square the M.C. If they had, one or both of the persons would have been ruined. From our Romantic Compatibility report: Your relationship may have begun without serious communication problems, although there can be some reserve at the beginning, as Mercury especially feels somewhat awkward and self-conscious around Saturn in terms of what to say, how to say it, and so forth. It can be suggested that they take constructive measures in their manner of expressing energy or hostility. Often the exchange reamins a secret to the public, where no more than a few people ever know the extent of what happened. Saturn square Ascendant Aspect in Synastry: Saturn square Ascendant aspect in synastry indicates that partners are learning to meet each other half way. These are not long term burdens, but rather incidents that occur during the time of Mercury and Saturn's association. no doubt about it. If both of you are open-minded, Mercury appreciates Saturns advice and this can lead to a deeper sense of meaning. Mercury Square Pluto Synastry. unfortunately I have this with my boyfriend and experienced it the most with my ex (mars opp pluto is an exact aspect). This cross-aspect is a powerful one. MERCURY SQUARE SATURNMercury is strongly drawn to take on work or responsibility for Saturn or develop a working relationship. This is just one of those mutual chemistry things that has to be forced to die. Both were in a period of inverting their former patterns, he in his work, she in her expressions of self will. [p] There is a vigor, a stimulation between the two people. Although Moon in particular may feel emotionally frustrated at times, there is a feeling of constancy and dependability in Saturn that is very attractive. [p] There are several examples when Mercury took the opportunity, not of construction, but of sheer destruction. [p] When Mercury acts with honor, he can build a reputable association with M.C. [p] Two love affairs were based on hidden motives and subtle force by Pluto. Synastry:Mars-MarsAspects [p] In some cases Mercury's impartiality excluded Neptune, and there was no more than secret fantasies between them. [p] In all the examples, Mercury gives some beneficence to Jupiter. [p] These examples include both long and short term relationships, most of which were deep and meaningful contacts. Your Saturn partner listens well, guides, and disciplines you in mostly pleasing ways. That period of tentsion may be in their sexual attraction, a dispute or disagreement, an element of jealousy or competitiveness, a demand, a temper, or a trauma. If it is a partnership, competitiveness is the driving force. With the wide variability of the sextile, these examples hold every possible expression of the planet's nature. [p] Among the examples there is the cooperation between a dentist and patient. There is a certain time when the way is clear for the, to build a mature exchange. At the time of this aspect, the man's Mercury made 4 N parallels to planets in the woman's chart. You both push each other to think in broader terms and open each other up to a new way of thinking. by presenting a note of dishonorable conduct, or by fear that their association would hurt hiw own reputation. In this Sun conjunct Saturn synastry . [p] When Mercury extends his integral high aspirations, there is a superior association. The Saturn partner leads the Mercury partner to the necessary lessons, tells them about the responsibility, burden and the means to achieve wisdom, which will add fullness to their existence. Saturn can be serious about the moon persons feelings and often seeks to react and manage them in a mature and genuine way. So recently I've been interested in a new guy so I had to look up our synastry. [p] In several examples of marriage, friendship, and business exchange, Mercury did credit Saturn with stability, maturity, and capacity. The person was a your lover in a past life. Mercury has at some time, or often, a similar domestic situation to that of the Moon. Most of them endure pleasantly and beneficially. No, no other Saturn aspects except Sun trine Saturn and Saturn sextile Mars. Mercury is very curious. Mercury may offer work, stability or security at a time when Saturn has difficulties. Synastry:Venus-VenusAspectsBetweenTwoCharts [p] A psychologist had Mercury square the Pluto of a patient. Any personal experiences or knowledge of any kind is greatly appreciated! [p] When Mercury is gentle and protective of the Moon, there is a responsive exchange. She was not involved in the sex club but knew of its existence. is more indicative of difficulty in getting public notice or credit of any kind. [p] When people meet during a Mercury square Sun progression, Mercury is quite willing to break through obstacles to relate to the Sun. His Saturn falls into my 7th house, Pisces. It was a stable, dutiful marriage, if a lonely one for both of them. You feel that you can learn a lot from Saturns wisdom. Posts: 73 From: Chicago, IL USA Registered: Nov 2012: posted January 29, 2013 04:45 PM . She was a dynamic Scorpio, whose approach to him from his childhood on was, "Do it, or else." In an example of two men with Mercury conjunct Jupiter, both were important in their profession; Mercury had received world renown. [p] In other cases, the two people loved each other, but the life of one or the other was marked with tragedy. Click The mother understood and identified with his constructive efforts, but had little interest in the tedious hours on the set. When your Mercury forms a challenging aspect (square, opposition, or quincunx) to your partners Saturn, there may be strong elements of teaching and learning in your relationship, as well as a deep respect for each others intelligence. In several cases the two people went into totally new experiences together that expanded their horizons and philosophy. A doctor with Mercury opposition Mars to a youngster worked with him periodically for three years of physical therapy after the boy had polio. There was an occasional critical disagreement, or a trauma or minor injury to Mercury or Mars. [p] In these examples we have a fraternal contact of ten years cohabitation, friendships and business acquaintances of longer periods. His Saturn falls into my 7th house, Pisces. Mercury can tap the spiritual heights with Pluto. They could also create a family really fast. Too much optimism is possible, to where you support each others . In some of the examples, there was a more casual and intermittent contact between people in widely varied fields of interest, who nonetheless made an impression upon each other's lives. It doesnt even have to be about another person. Older folks born between September 1952 and October 1953 have this difficult aspect. His logic: Aren't women supposed to be the more communicative types? While Mercury is usually a helpful planet and helps with communication, this planet has another, less savory role. Saturn offers practical advice and tips that truly improve Mercurys life. [p] There may be no more than a period of difficulty that can be overcome with effort. [p] In several cases, Mercury attempted a work and social cooperation with Pluto, but met a coercive experience of covetry. The example charts include approximately 60 persons who have had drug experiences. [p] A woman with the aspect to her son had frequent short periods of separation from him. MERCURY OPPOSITION MARSMercury has in common with Mars a similar construction, or a desire for the same goal or a similar way of expending his energy and aggression. Where they reach an understanding and identification on a personal level, their basic personality, disposition and attitudes do not blend. In cooperation with her, Mercury developed his own hidden capacities, and found his firm direction. [p] The least harm in the Mercury opposition saturn examples was in the cases where both persons took a hard working, responsible attitude. [p] The progressions show the time when Mercury has the chance to express his desires with Mars. [p] In all the Mercury-Pluto aspectes, the contact implies a time when both persons are in a period of intensity, or inversion of pattern, temporarily or permanently. If it is a romantic relationship, sex has an addictive quality. [p] The majority are family relationships, neighbors, people who lived together, or people who are brought together by a member of the household. [p] The mundane examples are less fortunate. [p] The Mercury square Saturn is primarily a responsible, responsive exchange. The Pluto person enjoys the humor and the thoughts of the Mercury person. If the progression occurs in an established relationship, it indicates a period of conflict or hostility. [p] They will share, or experience at the same time a domestic relationship or situation. [p] Often the subtlety of the aspect is such that it reamins a secret to the public. Look Their relationship is characterized by close cooperation not only in the intellectual and educational sphere but also in . [p] A patient had Mercury square the Pluto of his doctor. Saturn can feel mighty threatened by this simple experience. Welcome to Lindaland (Linda-Goodman.com) Lindaland Astrology 2.0 Saturn conjunct Saturn in synastry . It's the closest aspect in our synastry. There are hidden depths of coercion and psychological warp in one or both that meet in a crisis. His look would say, What the heck is wrong with you? Sometimes, he wouldnt just pass her a disapproving or superior look. [p] This is the greater malefic in the most discordant aspect. Mercury has a familiarity with Jupiter's manner of expansion. Saturn generally is the one who wants the bond to be exclusive, and although the personal planet person generally wants the same thing, that personal planet person feels enormous pressure to be a certain way and feels like he or she is not free to express him or herself in a natural and dynamic manner. These aspects play out over time and often manifest in clear stages. [p] In one example, Mercury, an actress, married the man who had previously been married to the Moon. When we do get along (too many power struggle aspects such as pluto, so it's rare), even texts are awkward. She also began to view experiences when he was not around as a huge release. [p] There are very few marriages in the examples. [p] They never lived together for longer than a few months; circumstances parted them for months to years at a time. MERCURY SEXTILE MARSMercury has the ability to build a constructive relationship with Mars. [p] There are only four examples where the contact is not set in the home environment. When the business was totally lost to creditors, Mercury's attitude was. Periods of emotional distance and subsequent feelings that the relationship may be too heavy to maintain are often followed by tearful and emotional reunions when both parties feel that they need each other desperately, and that the attachment runs deeper than is always apparent. [p] The progressions follow the same pattern but with less trauma. The second time this transit happens will be at age 56, and it is also significant because it marks the . You feel that you can learn a lot from Saturn's wisdom. Mercury in the 8th House Synastry. [p] The progressions show a period of time when there is periodic contact, either on a daily or intermittent basis. She and her husband went into a series of business ventures that made gain with effort and discipline. With maturity, Mercury was able to acknowledge his mother with an understanding that led to cooperation. Mercury may refuse a contact with Neptune for these reasons. Saturn may deal with this fear by putting down the experience, punching holes in the theory that this threatening other has presented to Mercury. However, it can have its fair share of ups and downs. I can only imagine the square being more difficult. Mercury in 8th House synastry implies mutual stimulation of the partners' interests in learning, especially when it comes to occult studies as they both can advance beyond their expectations. Saturn does not feel comfortable with that initial bond changing, or what he or she perceives as changing. Synastry:SunSunAspectsBetweenTwoCharts On the other hand,the Ascendant person may feel stifled or oppressed by the Saturn person, but the rest of the synastry is needed to tell us if this is the case. MERCURY SQUARE M.C.Mercury is strongly drawn to the image that M.C. In one, Mars dies in a car crash; in one, Mars was a suicide; in one, Mercury was shot to death. [p] The progressions show a period of time when the two people may be very close as Mercury responds with comfort or assistance to Saturn's difficulties. Mercury Square Pluto in Synastry. [p] In an example of two friends, Mercury gave Mars a job that he handled so well it was beneficial to both. Mercury is seldom appreciative of the depth or extent of Saturn's responsible capabilities, or of Saturn's discipline or restriction. MERCURY SQUARE PLUTOMercury is strongly drawn to coercion or cooperation with Pluto. [p] They come together to share, or experience at the same time a quality or condition that is idealic, or that holds a note of mystery or scandal. Synastry:Venus-SaturnAspectsBetweenTwoCharts Synastry:Mars-SaturnAspects [p] In several other cases where the people were in love, their worlds were too different to include each other. As time passes, and especially once a commitment is made between each other, the personal planet person will inevitably grow in that area of life or part of the personality represented by the personal planet. Synastry:Venus-NeptuneAspects Moon may also feel the need to censor self-expression, feeling almost like a child facing a disapproving adult. However, when an opening came for a position requiring methodical system and capacity of management Mercury overlooked Saturn in favor of another. [p] In one example, a young man had Mercury sextile the Mars of the girl he was in love with. There will be pressure, especially on the part of the Mercury, to change. These people feel closely connected. I had Saturn conjunct my mercury with another guy. Synastry:MoonMercuryAspectsBetweenTwoCharts